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Re: God

Post by Austin » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:08 pm

Evil and Violence is a side effect of free will.

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Re: God

Post by Faliterum Alteris » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:09 pm

So you're saying that if everyone was in chains or enslaved, all violence will end? Is that it? Because in that way, if God exists, he still encourages violence based on the fact that humans have an instinctual will to be free.
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Re: God

Post by Austin » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:34 pm

God has nothing but love for humans. love begets free will to those which are loved. It isn't love if he makes us robots and forces us to be what he wants.

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Re: God

Post by Faliterum Alteris » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:42 pm

And thus the issue. If there is an omniscient, omnipotent creator of the earth, then he would be able to stop the fighting, proving once and for all he exists and has the power to change the universe itself. Thus my reason for thinking there is no benevolent god watching over us, and no heaven or hell. If there is, indeed, a higher power, he either doesn't really care or hates his own creation and we are secretly fighting a holy war against our own creator without our knowledge. In fact, he could be trying to kill us as we speak, and, being humans, we are persevering and evolving, adapting to our surroundings to win a war against an unknown enemy.
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Re: God

Post by UmbraSight » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:49 pm

Austin wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:34 pm
God has nothing but love for humans. love begets free will to those which are loved. It isn't love if he makes us robots and forces us to be what he wants.

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So God is unable to create free will without violence?
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Post by Austin » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:20 am

Yes, he is in the process of doing so ATM.

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Re: God

Post by Austin » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:20 am

But free will cannot exist without the possibility of some people going bad.

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Re: God

Post by UmbraSight » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:45 pm

Austin wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:20 am
But free will cannot exist without the possibility of some people going bad.

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Yes it can, and if god was omnipotent, then god would know exactly how to do it.
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Re: God

Post by Wint » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:53 pm

Anything can exist if God exists.
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Re: God

Post by Faliterum Alteris » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:53 pm

And if anything can exist with God, then peace would prevail.
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