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Re: Climate Change

Post by Maxx[2.0]ine » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:44 pm

Well, think of it in relation to the rest of the world, dude. There are 195 countries in the world, and your country produces 16% of the world's carbon emissions. That's actually a pretty high proportion of the emissions for one country, especially since the US population only makes up about 4.25% of the total population of earth.
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Re: Climate Change

Post by Shadow101 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:07 pm

Correct we are however one of the LARGER countries. If we are the size of multiple countries then we are actually lower then most. If you have countries that arnt even the size of Texas and they are at 4% yet as a whole we are at 16% then are we really more?

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Re: Climate Change

Post by Maxx[2.0]ine » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:21 pm

Well, if you take the case of Japan:

even though, yes, Texas is about twice as big as Japan, Japan still has nearly 4.5 times the amount of people. With things like this, you can't think of it in terms of landmass, you have to think about it in terms of population.

Comparing Japan and the US as a whole:

Japan has 126.5 million people, and produces 4% of emissions.
The US has 328.2 million people, and produces 16%.

The US population is about 2.6 times the size of the Japan population, and yet produces four times as much emissions.

So, yeah, 16% is still more.
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Re: Climate Change

Post by Vladmirk » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:28 pm

Shadow101 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:07 pm
Correct we are however one of the LARGER countries. If we are the size of multiple countries then we are actually lower then most. If you have countries that arnt even the size of Texas and they are at 4% yet as a whole we are at 16% then are we really more?
Your arguments do not make any sense. All you're doing is posturing numbers in order to diminish the problem that our country is causing and our responsibility to fix that problem.

Why do you even come here to argue if you refuse to come in with anything of substance. Your thoughts and feelings don't belong in a debate without sufficient facts and evidence to back them up.
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Re: Climate Change

Post by Snowskeeper » Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:15 am

Shadow101 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:07 pm
Correct we are however one of the LARGER countries. If we are the size of multiple countries then we are actually lower then most. If you have countries that arnt even the size of Texas and they are at 4% yet as a whole we are at 16% then are we really more?
https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-c ... -emissions

Here's the article that image comes from, as far as I can tell. It also contains a chart of carbon emissions per capita, meaning per person. The US is 4th on that list, whereas China is 12th. The size of your country has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of emissions it produces; most people do not need to travel across the United States during their daily commute, and for the most part unused and unoccupied land does not emit carbon. If anything the large amount of largely rural territory should help lower the numbers, as it does for China (which is actually bigger than the US, if you don't include overseas territories). The fact that it doesn't should tell you a lot about how much the size of a country actually matters, here. For that matter, the fact that China is placed 12th, despite the fact that it's one of the world's leading emitters, should maybe suggest that looking at things that perspective might be misleading as well; for the most part the general population is not responsible for the majority of emissions. The responsibility for that in the US primarily falls on the very wealthy, and corporations.
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Re: Climate Change

Post by Shadow101 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:21 pm

Because you can't mistake numbers. It is 100% accurate.

https://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/country ... %20States.

The United States is 26 times larger then Japan

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Re: Climate Change

Post by Maxx[2.0]ine » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:32 pm

Did you not read what I said?

LANDMASS OF A COUNTRY DOES NOT MATTER. IT IS ONLY POPULATION THAT DOES.
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Re: Climate Change

Post by Shadow101 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:35 pm

so When we Drive our vehicles across the land mass that counts for zero?

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Re: Climate Change

Post by Maxx[2.0]ine » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:39 pm

Yep. Because it's the person causing the emissions, not the size of the place.

When looking at these sorts of things, you look at the people who are causing the emissions, which means you only really need to take population size into account.
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Re: Climate Change

Post by Shadow101 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:58 pm

we have more a space to travel more across long distances most of those people walk everywhere and don't drive. As I said until you live in a house with no ac no heat walk every wear don't car pool or drive public transportation ie a bus then please stop again it just sounds like a load of hypocrisy.
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